The Astrology of Khloe Kardashian and Tristan Thompson
TIME TO GET MESSY AS HELL. Join us as we cover the astrology of the rollercoaster romance of Cancer Sun Khloe Kardashian and Pisces Sun Tristan Thompson. We talk about their compatibility, the Venus Saturn conjunction that coincided with their first breakup, Lamar Odom and Khloe’s compatibility, predictions for the future of their romance and more!
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ELYSE: Yes, so today we're gonna get into probably one of the messiest relationships we've ever covered on this podcast, which if you've listened to some previous episodes, you know, that is saying a lot of special. So, Dana.
DANA: Yes?
ELYSE: What are we talking about today?
DANA: Today we're talking about Khloe Kardashian and Tristan Thompson.
ELYSE: Yes, this one's a doozy, but this relationship can best be described as an actual soap opera, Khloe Kardashian and Tristan Thompson got together in 2016, which, wow, honestly feels like this saga has been going on for 10 plus years, but since then they've had a child broken up and gotten back together broke up again. All due to Tristan's very public and embarrassing cheating. And so now we know some of this top line drama. Let's learn more about each one of them.
SARAH: Okay so we all know who Khloe Kardashian is. She's the star of Keeping Up with the Kardashians. She's a socialite, she's a model, she's an entrepreneur. So what are her big
three?
Khloe Kardashian Birth Chart
DANA: Okay. Khloe was born on June 27th, 1980 for 10:55 p.m. In L. A. California.
SARAH: L. A. California.
DANA: California, you know that L. A. Um She has a cancer sun, a gemini moon and Aquarius rising. So cancer suns are ruled by the moon, which is the fastest moving planet in the zodiac and it cycles every 28 days. Which means cancer suns are used to like constant mood shifts and they can be moody but it's also a sign of the mother and she seems you know maternal, but also it's acquainted with like the dark feminine archetypes, right? So like a jilted or not jilted. What's the word when you get cheated on all the time that whatever that is? Um And like Lana Del Ray's a cancer and that's like the theme of all of her songs, right? So anyway, but one underrated trade of Cancer is that they're like super super funny. Cancer spend a lot of time like identifying their own emotions and constantly changing feelings. And so they like can readily identify that sort of vibe in like any situation and everyone knows that Khloe is the personality of the family. And from what I remember, she like was the closest with Kendall and Kylie in the early seasons.
SARAH: That's what I'm gonna say. She's like mom vibes.
DANA: Yeah, for sure. And like, yeah, the other ones weren't really hands on. Um Her Mercury and venus are also conjunct her sun. Um co like the loving energy of venus and the communicative energy of Mercury are like subsumed in her sun, making it like, it's both are related to her goals ultimately. Um and then she has her gemini moon, which adds a layer of contrast to everything I just said. The moon in Gemini is also hilarious and observant, but the moon is emotions and like your needs. And unlike cancer, which is a water sign, Gemini is an air sign. So generally unconsciously resist emotions at all costs. Um and persist in trying to understand them, which is what they think experiencing them means I know this. Uh and to complicate things, Cancer is also ruled by the moon. So her sun and her venus and Mercury are all answering to this energy, but her moon will be ruled by this cancer Mercury. So it's kind of like some sort of affinity there. This might like show up, It's like cracking really funny jokes about your feelings or like passive aggressive behavior because resisting the urge to feel can like sort of just put you in that really moody state and then it gets like weird. So she also has her Aquarius rising and this is going to be more on the same page with her like Gemini moon since they're both air signs. Aquarius is ruled by Saturn and an air sign. Um, so it's like restrictive and disciplined and relates to human connection. Aquarius is like the populist of the zodiac and so like they root for the everyman, which kind of sounds funny since she's a Kardashian, but like she's also the most relatable Kardashian like across the board unless you're, I don't know the devil in which case maybe you get Kris I don't know. But so um, all respect to Kris. Aquarius are like wonderful friends because they're terrific listeners and can remain like totally detached from the situation while still hearing about it. And this enables them to provide pretty objective insight. Um, and like help people without projecting their own experience onto it, which like cancer can complicate this sort of vibe just because cancer is like the sign of attachment, but overall like we've seen her be like a great friend of people, maybe not so much to herself, you know, her own friendship to herself might not be great, but her sun is an aversion to her moon and her rising and aversions are also known as like in conjunction or semi sextiles and quincunx is and this means that the planets and points cannot see each other and thus have no relationship to each other. Uh so although our sun and moon are in antiscia together, which means they're equidistant from the solstice point, which is like the summer solstice, this is deeper asteroid jargon, but like look it up, if you want to know more insight about your chart, it'll probably help you and make you feel better. But um her sun and moon like might be like covert allies if they’re in antiscia but like her Aquarius rising is on a different page and it's the one that's driving the ship. It's totally different motives than her cancer sun. And so she was also born eight days after mars stationed direct in Scorpio. And like martian energy is very loud in her life is what that means because like a planet that stationary is just, it's slow. So it's like it just feels loud. So overall this can lead to like power struggles in your life and especially since it's in her 10th House of publicity and she's a famous person.
ELYSE: Interesting. Well that all kind of tracks with what she's going through, but let's focus our attention on to Tristan. Tristan Thompson is a Canadian professional basketball player and professional cheater. He's played for a few NBA teams. Mostly the Cleveland cavaliers, he's been bounced around to a few teams lately and is currently playing for our hometown team, the Chicago Bulls which we absolutely do not condone.
Tristan Thompson Birth Chart
DANA: So he was born on March 13, in Toronto Canada, but we don't know what time but we do know that he is a Pisces sun and Aquarius Moon. And Pisces suns are ruled by Jupiter, the planet of abundance faith and good fortune. Jupiter provides and like this makes Pisces a dreamer. They're like super empathetic. They might be very tired although he seems to have a lot of energy because he's a professional athlete but anyway like and professional chair which arguably takes more energy. Yeah, for sure emotional energy which expands the most um places are great. Expending emotional energy to their own, you know detriment. Um although like this, yeah, so being like a dream of being like very empathetic can also make you generally attractive to people right and he's hot but Pisces also with like the victim of a zodiac truly which can also result in them feeling like a victim even when they are the perpetrator. Yeah, but Aquarius ones are different. The moon is emotions and needs and our bodies and Aquarius avoids commitment at all costs and they feel safest when they like no, they belong to no one interested obviously exploits this and so this combination sort of I think really kind of represents him although there's obviously way more layers in his chart which we can get you later.
SARAH: Wow that Aquarius Moon. Um so the drama in this relationship started literally from like the moment it began at second zero. Khloe and Tristan began dating in 2016, but before he was dating Khloe he was dating Jordan Craig and Jordan Craig is a health and wellness influencer slash blogger which like all of us are these days, but the story which the parties involved cannot agree on goes that Tristan broke up with Jordan and then realized she was pregnant and then he started dating Khloe.
ELYSE: Yes and surprise like Sarah said there's a lot of speculation around how this all went down starting with that Tristan actually cheated on Jordan but Khloe and Tristan deny all of this vehemently Khloe says she was set up on a blind date with Tristan by a friend. They went on a few dates and then she found out he had a pregnant ex. She thought it was a red flag spoiler alert because it was um but then he like showed her text, he had her talk to his friends, his own mother, he put her on calls with his lawyers. What if you had gone on a few dates with someone, found out something shady about them and then they're like no no no no no it's fine talk to my lawyer, like…
DANA: It really depends on what you're talking about.
ELYSE: But yeah, he did all of this to prove that him and Jordan had broken up before him and Khloe met and because this whole situation is just messy as all hell, Jordan was like um I never even knew we had broken up and you were dating Khloe, so she assumed they were together, which yikes, I know like what do you even do?
SARAH: But regardless of whatever happened, Tristan broke up with Jordan, he makes it official with Khloe. So what are Khloe synastry what's it like?
ELYSE: And to look at the industry, we are going to take Khloe's chart and Tristan's chart and overlap them and that gives us an idea about their relationship dynamics.
Khloe Kardashian & Tristan Thompson’s Synastry
DANA: Okay, so Tristan's Aquarius Moon and Saturn are on Khloe's ascendant and first house and I know I said that Aquarius Moon would rather eat glass and commit but this is good for a commitment for them. I think Saturn is the planet of commitment and hard work and the moon is where are we are in our feelings and like the fact that he has these co present could contribute his athletic prowess actually I think. But anyway, so his like the ascendant is who we are in a chart and so this kind of makes Tristan able to commit to Khloe or at least like believe that he can for a period of time, which I guess he did right. Tristan's Jupiter is in her seventh house, right? Which will enhance like everything I said above, Jupiter is the greater benefic in the seventh. Like it's really good. Synastry in the seventh is committed partnerships and Jupiter is a sign of goodwill and faith and just sort of like belief. So you really believe in this relationship and both partners will have sort of like different parts of that energy. Also their suns are both in water signs, which indicates affinity through trying and trains are easy, just sort of like it feels good to be around each other. But Tristan's mars in gemini is conjunct his moon and copresent with her chiron and North node and I see so mars is sex and the moon is our body so this could be good for sex. Uh and like a couple who gets like horny from fighting um but mars is also a severance and abrasion and the moon is like feelings and safety chiron is our primordial wound. The north node is a point of increase and significance and the IC is the lowest part of the chart and the deepest part of the sky, it relates to great beginnings, great endings as well as like our early childhood programming. So we know that Kris Jenner had affairs, I think we know that at least maybe I'm making this up anyway, I'm pretty sure we know this.
SARAH: Yeah, she had affairs.
DANA: And Khloe was young um And I think like maybe this impacted Khloe’s psyche to the degree that like maybe maybe his behavior like triggers her anxiety or just triggers sort of like that early thing where like she wants to avoid it but she just keeps getting more of it in her life. I know this because I just started studying young anyway.
SARAH: Well three months later Jordan gives birth to Tristan son Prince. So that's his first kid. Then we flash forward a few years and now Khloe is pregnant and she she has his daughter True and now Tristan is accused of cheating again with a bunch of women a bunch of times but this time it's on Khloe after photos of him creeping on girls and being PDA surface while she's pregnant.
ELYSE: Yes and Khloe appears to be like not bothered by this situation which you know obviously she was but she started getting real aggressive with fans on twitter trying to clap back at everyone saying you have no knowledge of what goes on in our household or the enormous rebuilding this takes to even coexist, I'm proud of my strength. I appreciate your opinions and I hope you hold that same opinion to everyone else who has stayed in these situations. So you know she said her peace and you know she just wanted to move on from it. You know obviously she was very pregnant at the time so maybe she was just doing whatever she had to do, you know to get through it, but it sucks big time. So no judgments there, but she has her baby true and they stay together. But one cheating scandal they didn't stay together for was involving Kylie's, Kylie Jenner's and that's their sister if you don't know. And this is Kylie's bestie slash assistant slash athletic line designer slash influencer, which everyone in the Kardashians life is a slash slash slash um and this is Jordyn Woods.
SARAH: Yes, this one like honestly broke the world apart. So allegedly Jordan and Tristan were all over each other at an after party and they hooked up like the world fell apart like I said, so what's the by wheel for them? And also like, you know, was this just like raging hormones or did did they have a little bit? Something more?
Tristan Thompson & Jordyn Woods’ Synastry
DANA: I mean, I don't know either of their rising. So I don't know, but, but we know some things right? So we know that Jordan's south node conjuncts his sun in pisces and in synastry the nodes tend to be like they make astrologers tend to have an opinion about noodles industry, which means that there's something there. So like the notes tend to make things feel magnetic or destined as well as like fraught and dire. So it's usually both, not either or or I mean I guess instead of fraught and there could be significant, but anyway, like it doesn't seem like they had a torrid love affair. But this could really indicate like a sense of comfort. Maybe they've been feeling that way around each other for you know, a while. I'm reminded suddenly of the moment and girls when Jessa goes to Adam's door despite her like trying to resist and says, I've wanted this for a really long time. Um, but the south node is like an inherent comfort zone and it's also a point of law. So Tristan, you know, was comfortable and he lost something. Also Jordan's Neptune is exactly conjunct the North node in Capricorn. So now we have dual nodal synastry. Neptune is like it obscures shit. It just makes you really not know. I mean if we're thinking of like the north node is like the, what's it called? The north node of a compass or the north thing of a compass that's like really obscures his like direction. Also Jordan’s mars is in Scorpio just like Khloe which really isn't enough information because I haven't seen his other mistress's charts. But it is interesting to like look at, you know.
SARAH: That that is interesting. So Khloe finds out about this little situation, this little tryst which like honestly have to point out that tryst is interesting, his name, which I feel like is like too perfect to be a coincidence. Um, but anyway, Khloe is super devastated, Tristan admits to cheating on her and then honestly like the fallout is insane.
ELYSE: Yeah, so this, it was an even bigger deal because Jordan's lived with Kylie at the time, so it was just like a breakup, an eviction. The Kardashians completely cut her off, Jordan has to move out, they all unfollowed each other and post cryptic I. G. Quotes which they all love to do and Khloe even like full blown rage tweets at Jordan's saying she broke up her family cancer.
DANA: Yeah, that's cancer with a moon in gemini.
SARAH: Oh yeah, gonna put them on blast on Twitter. Um It also like the more episodes we do on this family, the more I realize they just like love to just shit post each other, you know like they always put like cryptic Instagram stories up all the time and I just feel like it's like let's be adults, like, you know, it's like so absurd. But when all is said and done Tristan and Khloe call it quits um they publicly announced their breakup, this is their first breakup now it is said that they may have broken up before the whole Jordan's situation, but Jordan was like the nail in the coffin for good at least at that moment in time. Um So what was going on when this breakup happened?
Khloe Kardashian Tristan Thompson’s Break Up Astrology
DANA: Okay so the Daily Mail reported it on February 17th 2019 on this day, Venus perfected a conjunction with Saturn and Venus, love and harmony and Saturn is division and like the word no um they're co president with Pluto and the south node. Pluto relates to power and total transformation and it's kind of a freak, but also sort of like the south node is decreased. So all this energy is in Capricorn, which is like structure and sort of like just like doing the right thing. It just, you know, it's really fraught. We remember what life was like. Then also Tristan’s nodal opposition was exact this day that it's like a longer uh the aspect is like exact for a longer period of time, but like the normal opposition occurs around 26 to 28 it's like the astrological reason for the 27 club. So it's a time when like faded events reroute our lives like maybe something dies, you know, maybe like you commit some sort of minor suicide in your life. Um things though. Sorry? Whatever. I mean like he chose to do that right? Like his choices lead to his poor behavior. But like it's like the thing to where if anyone had something really should, he happened to you at 27 it's like something happened that was always going to occur.
ELYSE: Damn well. But those close to Tristan say he's not trying to be a dick or manipulative but that he's simply a cheater at heart. They say he doesn't care about anyone but himself. He just cares about his wants and needs in the moment
DANA: That makes me feel crazy to hear, I guess that's what I feel insane when you read that you. said that, I feel insane to about it.
ELYSE: So honestly that is in case you guys are, you know, wondering that is not an excuse.
SARAH: So also this is someone close to him to saying this, you know, it's like not even an enemy, this is just someone being like, here's my boy,
DANA: Maybe they're like that too.
SARAH: gross. I know, I mean, I feel like that's very like NBA Basketball player. I'm sure there's like nice ones out there, but.
DANA: Hopefully my boyfriend Blake Griffin is good.
SARAH: Well defying all logic, Khloe and Tristan get back together again after all this happened in 2020. By all accounts, the Kardashian family had forgiven Tristan and they were all fine. They gave him a second chance and there was even talk about Khloe wanting to get pregnant again, which like Khloe remember what he does cheat on pregnant women? It's like his thing. Yeah, maybe he hates. Is there anything in his chart that shows he hates pregnant women?
DANA: I would need at least know his rising before I made that speculation.
ELYSE: But their reunion could not go without more drama because the Kardashian quote unquote friend Larsa Pippen, which is Scottie Pippen's ex wife. She's just a disaster. She came forward to tell the world that she was actually dating Tristan before Khloe. Allegedly Larson said she brought Tristan to a party, introduced him to Khloe and then he was like peace, Larsa, I'm going to go date Khloe.
DANA: I would not tell people that story about me, I want to know know what is her end game.
SARAH: I have no idea, but I feel like this happened, I feel like this is a true.
ELYSE: Maybe Larsa is the friend who introduced them and then they went out.
SARAH: You're probably right. Anyway, Khloe denies all of this like I said, and regardless of the drama, let's hear about what transits were happening during Khloe and Tristan's reunion.
Tristan Thompson & Khloe Kardashian’s Reunion Astrology
DANA: That was August 28, 2020 Scott Disick like commented on one of her post on Instagram and so people believe that that is verified confirmation. So wow, Jupiter was retrograde conjunct a degree that Venus and Saturn were in at the breakup, Jupiter’s like multiplication and the word yes, um whereas you know, Saturn was division and the word no, so this makes things like seem possible again, right? And Saturn is also the same degree. So Saturn is like transit, you know, it's moving towards the degree that the south node was in on the day of the breakup, so it's just two things that are activated again and it's like aspect, Saturn, conjunct the South node is like a double negative the shortest way I can think to say it, so like things to be awkward but also their on again, right? And so Saturn in Capricorn is also exactly conjunct the North node and this is increased but not without consequences. He's in the doghouse obviously like no one liked him since then and the north node was in gemini exactly conjunct Khloe’s moon and this is like very emotional. Um again, the north node is increasing as our feelings. It's like I could feel like destiny, like Khloe's faith is restored and like it's especially significant since the moon rules her sun, Mercury and Venus, so she doesn't really probably know what to do, but like she believes that in like the relationship with her heart, mind and pussy because that's your sun, your Mercury and your Venus.
SARAH: That's sad, you know?
DANA: Well we've all believed in something with our pussies so.
SARAH: I feel like with her though, she's just like constantly getting just like smacked around, but I guess like it makes sense why she's so like holding on to this relationship so tightly well until 2021 because they throw in the towel and break up again because it just like wasn't working a few months after that this little lady Maralee Nichols who was Tristan's personal trainer came forward to just drop a bomb. I remember this day because twitter went off the rails, but Maralee said she had also, I don't know if it's Mara-lee or Merri-lee, I'm just saying it in my awful midwestern way, but Maralee, but she said that she had a baby and she claimed that Tristan was the father and the timeline of like, you know her giving birth and everything would mean that once again Tristan cheated on Khloe while they were together
ELYSE: Maralee is like Tristan, you're the dad, I need child support and she sues him for said child support and pregnancy related fees and Tristan does end up admitting to having sex with her a bunch of times, but he wants a paternity test to be sure. And this was a pretty big bombshell because it came out of nowhere right before the holidays, everyone was talking about it. Justin was like tweeting a bunch of like mean shit at Maralee. Like it was kind of messed up. Yeah, he was like, he was like, I'm going to retire at the end of the season and I'm gonna be broke, so like you're gonna sue me for paternity and I'm not going to be able to give you any money and it's like another season.
DANA: Shut up, embarrassing. Like that's like pure desperation.
SARAH: Plus everyone knows you're supposed to invest your money, like how do you think, where did it all go? Probably on hoes?
Astrology of Tristan Thompson and Maralee Nichols’ News Breaking
DANA: Oh sh it doesn't seem like he was paying. The problem is that there are no more hoes, everyone just fucks people for free. We need to bring back the hoes. Anyway um okay, so This was the day before the final solar eclipse in Sagittarius which kept a story that began at the end of May 2020, which was a few months again before they officially started. Maybe that was around when they started talking again, I don't know. Um, but the eclipse was in Sagittarius conjunct Mercury. And eclipses are like sudden beginnings and sudden endings and Mercury's information and in Sagittarius, Mercury is not interested in details. It's looking at the whole picture. Sagittarius is ruled by Jupiter. At the time, Jupiter was in Aquarius which is a sign that's very significant for both Khloe. And remember it's her rising and it's Tristan's moon and Saturn. So I think this might permanently restrict his access to Khloe since it's her ascendant.
ELYSE: Wow.
SARAH: Liberation through restriction. So Tristan takes the paternity test And it probably should come as no surprise to anyone but he was the father of Maralee’s baby. It was like 100% certain. And then Tristan goes on to write this like I don't even know how to describe it. Just like this lame mass Instagram story apology to Khloe being like you don't deserve the heartache and the humiliation I have caused you which like yeah, obviously like get out of here, obviously bring back the hoes and shut up.
DANA: Pay us money, close your mouth.
ELYSE: Yes, all of the above. But Khloe was very upset. Obviously, she did not respond publicly to Tristan's Instagram apology or acknowledge the situation, but sources close to her said she was pretty unsettled by the whole thing. Khloe has kept quiet about the whole situation, but someone who has not is her ex-husband, Lamar Odom.
SARAH: Yes. Lamar is so petty about this and I love it. But if you didn't know Lamar Odom um he's a former pro basketball player, he was married to Khloe for a few years. They married after one month of dating and even had a reality show together, but eventually they got divorced after being married for four years.
ELYSE: Wow I totally forgot they got married that quickly. But it's been alleged that Khloe's relationship with Lamar started in a similar way to her relationship with Tristan in Lamar's book From darkness to light, he said he was dating actress Taraji P Henson, which crazy, I totally didn't know this. Um when he met Khloe and he didn't know how to tell Taraji, he was falling in love with Khloe, which you know that might shed a little bit of light. Like do you think they were actually dating for a month or was it just a month between when he broke up with Taraji and when he started dating Khloe but I digress regardless of how they met. Let's look into Khloe and Lamar's biwheel.
Khloe Kardashian & Lamar Odom’s Synastry
DANA: What's up with Lamar and Larson both telling on themselves?. Okay, so you were cheating on Taraji Henson, Fuck you. Okay, I'm furious right now. So Lamar's sun was conjunct Khloe's mars in Scorpio and the best part about this aspect is that it can be super fun. Mars rules Scorpio. So maybe Khloe had like a hold on Lamar and maybe that felt really special. But the worst part about this aspect is that the couple can like start competing with one another and then that would obviously present problems. I mean it could also be like a fun competition but then you know things can always our um but they also both have their suns in water signs — Khloe’s the cancer sun. Lamar is a Scorpio sun. And this really adds affinity. It's that trying that she also has with Tristan remember and they both have Gemini moons, wow! So having your room in the same sign as your partner can create like an automatic affinity and understanding like you're both processing emotion at the same time and the transiting moon will occur at the same time. So like you'll be really, you know getting each other all the time. But in Gemini this could in every sign there would be you know pluses and minuses and Gemini the minus is that like emotions can go on process, they might be always discussed and never fully filtered through like your body so things can never really be settled even if like you talk about things to no end but you never really like because they don't really know how to push it through couple therapy obviously come to a solution you think but like they always find the best solution is just that just never really gets through. You can't really either needle I guess is what I'm trying to say. Is that the right way to say it. Lamar's mars is conjunct Khloe’s descendant in Leo and mars on the descendant can be empowering. They can also be exhausting and thus disempowering and like I feel like that was both like both of them were true for the relationship. Like maybe you know he ended up just like exhausting Khloe.
ELYSE: Mm hmm. Yeah. He had a lot of other issues going exhausting issues.
SARAH: Yeah I was just gonna say he has so many Virgo things happening.
DANA: Really speaks to addiction.
SARAH: Yeah.
DANA: Yeah that's a sign of health and like they're very obsessive. They can get really hard on themselves and when they're not perfect.
ELYSE: It's exhausting to both be dealing with an addict and being an addict yourself.
DANA: And he almost died a bunch of times.
SARAH: I know. But these days Lamar is known to periodically leave thirsty comments on Khloe's Instagram photos and get into various fights with Tristan, which I love on social media. I bet she kind of likes that, I would like that I'd be like that's my ex husband.
DANA: Of course she does. She for sure likes it. I mean she's into these like fraught relationships, right? I think a lot of women can relate that would at least be the best part of it. Hey, they're fighting about me, These losers are fighting about me again.
ELYSE: God. Lamar recently called Tristan corny for cheating on Khloe and made statements saying that Khloe deserves the world and he wants to reconnect with her as friends. But the statement is also bizarre given that Lamar has also admitted to cheating on Khloe a bunch of times. So yeah girl, girl can't catch a break.
SARAH: Not like he's not wrong but it's also like you did the same thing, but is this really the end for Tristan and Khloe? Some people are not so sure. That's because Kanye when he put out that video about how he wasn't allowed to go to his daughter Chicago's birthday party when he was talking about that, he mentioned that Tristan was allowed to, which people were like what? To be honest. I know it is true, but that's what I like about Kanye when he goes on these like weird sprees, is he just like lays out like everyone else's bullshit to where it's like, like when the person gave him, I think it was Travis Scott gave him the address for the party and Kanye was like thank you Travis for giving me the address.
DANA: I love him, he's a pure, his rages are pure of heart and I think that people are honest with themselves, they can tell that.
SARAH: Then Kanye followed it up with a video at the birthday party where you could see a person that definitely looks like Tristan causing people like causing people to speculate they might be together again.
ELYSE: So that was around January 15, 2022. So just so our listeners know the precise timeline of where we're at here. So we've gathered that this train wreck of a relationship truly never stops giving the drama. So here we are prediction time, Dana, what do you think's going to happen? Will they get back together? What's the deal with them?
DANA: The short answer is no, but we have a lot more information.So they got together in 2016, when Jupiter was opposite Neptune and this year Jupiter is conjunct Neptune. Jupiter’s like feeling good and Neptune is delusion and inebriation um when these planet aspect each other, it's like delusion. I honestly though I'm just thinking of this as like a cycle for the timeline, this is one cycle that's closing or that's like actually still in effect, it just one cycle that shows that like big changes are happening. I mostly think though, okay, so like my major point is that the reunion was contained within the Gemini and Sagittarius eclipse timeline and like when the eclipse ended or the eclipse series ended, a major chapter of their story did and like maybe it was the grand ending, it was where Khloe’s moon is and like her moon rules so many of her placements also at the time like Saturn is in Aquarius. So like I just think that that was the major thing mars retrograde though also in Gemini from October 30th through January 12 2023 it will be in Gemini for eight months. So if anyone thinks that shit was weird last month, it’s gonna be louder and just very weird for that time. Anyway though it will cross because Tristan has his Mars in Gemini, so it'll cross his mars three times, so he gets three mars retrogrades on september 29th, november 28th and mars 2nd 2023 so if you're following him, those would be dates to look at this can result in more stories or information coming out about it, like infidelity since <ars relates to sex and like Mars retrograde might make that come out anyway, but he also has his Mars in Gemini which is the planet of two, so it could relate to like sexual duplicity. Also mars retrogrades in Sagittarius to Scorpio in 2016, so this is another cycle from that year, that's like opposite, because Mars retrograde in Gemini is opposite Sagittarius and so like events from that, like they could sort of either of the it's like this year might be a lot like 2016 or just have like events that are closing or like, you know, sort of like continuing and then finally Saturn will conjunct Khloe’s ascendant on January 23rd, 2023 but also like, it's, it'll be closely conjunct stations retrograde on her descendant or within like a degree of it in May, so it just sort of like actually may station in June anyway. It stations retrograde this year on her ascendant and Saturn on the ascendant is like growing up, so this could be a time where she's actually when Saturn is retrograde, it'll be like her going through everything again, maybe that would be a time that they might get back together if anything were to happen, but I think that she's done, I think that went by the time Saturn like crosses her ascendant for good, she's going to be like, I've grown up, I realized that I really want to be at least free from this situation. Hopefully, you know, in a good relationship if she wants, but that's what Saturn on the ascendant is all about adulthood maturity,
ELYSE: She deserves it. Let's hope for more growing up and less fillers for Khloe Kardashian.
DANA: Fingers crossed for Chloe girl.
ELYSE: But next week we're gonna talk about Alec Baldwin and the shooting that happened on his film Rust. There is still shit coming out about this, so it's gonna be a juicy one,
SARAH: Hilaria’s husband.
DANA: Meanwhile Alec has a podcast.
ELYSE: Yeah, what if we invited him on? I would like to talk.
DANA: His ego's too big, but I would love that. We should, we should just have both of them on all of the celebrities we invite to be on the, by the way, which is all celebrities email us if you want to be on the podcast.
ELYSE: Okay, well with that, I'm Elyse.
DANA: I’m Dana.
SARAH: And I'm Sarah.
ELYSE: And this is Allegedly Astrology.
DANA: Welcome back. Welcome back. Welcome back.
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