The Astrology of the Salem Witch Trials
Put on some black lace and turn up the Stevie Nicks because we’re getting spooky. This week, we’re covering the astrology of the Salem Witch Trials. We compare the transits of The Trials with the Satanic Panic, talk about Saturn in Sagittarius, and even learn how Lilith in Cancer is never a good thing for anyone with ovaries.
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ELYSE: Light as a feather, still as a board. Hello and welcome to Allegedly Astrology. Each week we’ll be breaking down the astrology that happened during some of the biggest scandals and events in history. Sarah what are we talking about in this episode today?
SARAH: We're talking about the complete pile of horseshit. That was the Salem witch trials.
ELYSE: Yes. Something that this coven can definitely get behind. I think a lot of people vaguely know about the Salem witch trials, but in case you don't want to pull out your whitewashed history book. These were a series of trials, persecutions and general mass hysteria that took place between 16 92 and 16 93. But in order to understand how something like this could happen, we need to understand the vibe of Salem Massachusetts.
SARAH: So, life in the colonies was fucking brutal. Nothing came easy. Winters were freezing, colonists couldn't plant crops for ship, They couldn't hunt, they were constantly afraid of being attacked. So everyone is just super on edge. And one way they coped with this anxiety and general tension was religion. And religion in their culture was a huge deal. They were puritans and this was the cornerstone of their society.
ELYSE: Puritan society is sort of built upon the belief that there should be no rituals or ceremonies that aren't found in the bible. Like they're very adamant about removing themselves from the pomp and circumstance of the Anglican Catholic Church. Like they didn't want priests to wear like any like cute robes or anything and they believed in the enforcement of morals and we're always trying to punish behavior like drunkenness and swearing. So yeah that we would have never made it like a puritan really boring. But yeah you were expected to behave like a pure wholesome cherub and if you went against it, people said you were a sinner and that you should be punished and so really sort of any nonconformity was just a thing that was not accepted.
SARAH: So on top of all that there was also this widespread fear in the colonies of the supernatural, especially the devil giving, which is power to harm other people. So people were super on edge and always like am I going to get hexed and then as an additional layer of why even try anymore there's a smallpox epidemic that's going on. So a bunch of people are dying and then there's also a ton of displaced people coming into Salem because there was this war going on in upstate New York between France and Britain which like literally I didn't even know happened but all of those people are coming into Salem competing for the already scarce resources. So I know it's insane.
ELYSE: Like literally they have nothing and then it's like on top of it like other smallpox war which is like, you know, let's spoke with all of our attention on the witches though because that's like the most important problem. Yeah so it would be great to know like what kind of transits are happening at this time.
DANA: Well for in terms of smallpox, there was a Jupiter Pluto conjunction, which we're familiar with already because—
ELYSE: Is that the same conjunction we're experiencing now?
DANA: Correct. We have a few other planets over in Capricorn really adding to the fervor um but there also was puritanism was on the rise and that was like creating kind of like a fear of others and just like high anxiety um in terms of like the culture and also within that sort of belief system and that has to do a lot with like Saturn and Sagittarius because Saturn is like, you know it's restriction and then Sagittarius is belief, so it's like peak dogma. Sagittarius needs to believe in something at all times and Saturn like wants to discipline and be disciplined and kind of just channel that we're in a period right now of Saturn and Capricorn, so we just kind of understood this and that was like maybe kind of the onset of cancel culture in America and on twitter, we also had Pluto in Cancer at the time that Salem witch trials began and Pluto, I mean this is just one that I'm super glad I don't have to experience as a woman and as a human being because like Pluto is just like just like this transient sort of disdain for women and um Pluto is big change. Pluto is also how a generation is remembered, it's like the generational legacy, so Pluto and cancer is like, it leaves with that the Puritans like our often considered to be like have the legacy of the Salem Witch Trials. So it's like the legacy of things that were, you know, like being so like um proved that you can't even really understand that maybe a woman would want to live in the woods and not be bothered.
ELYSE: I mean I guess it's sort of like Okay, picture what's happening now with like a pandemic and um women still trying to fight for equality and um you know apply that to 320 plus years ago. So it seems like a lot of simmering tensions played against women, another type of pandemic. So just like the same ship we're dealing with now, it's similar for sure.
SARAH: So not trying to name names, but this all started because Betty Paris and Abigail Williams like freak the fuck out in February 1692. They're flailing everywhere, screaming saying they're being harassed by invisible forces that are biting and pinching them, but no one else can see them.
ELYSE: Weren't they only like nine and 11, like they weren't women right?
SARAH: They were like Children, they were like babies for sure.
ELYSE: Nice.
SARAH: And so after this happens, their dad is like, oh well obviously the only explanation is that they've been bewitched. So the girls are like yes, obviously and so the girls are like, wow, you're right dad and we know just the person who did it, it's Tituba who was our Indigenous slave.
ELYSE: Wow, I love when white people do that, they just love to blame their slave. Cool, great!
SARAH: So the town was like, let's confront Tituba at the best place ever, which is a pub. So they brought all these children to a bar, Everyone gathered in the town in this bar and they're like, yo Tituba what the fuck is going on. And in this moment Tituba becomes the JK Rowling of Salem and she starts going off about black magic, dogs flying on sticks from place to place and how the devil revealed himself to her and she said she was forced to sign the devil's book with her blood because of these two other chicks, Sarah Goodman and Sarah Osborne
DANA: Not to be confused with Sarah Dembkowski.
SARAH: Yes, we are many Sarahs.
DANA: If I had to like speculate on the astrology of that situation, I would say that Lilith In Pisces is like an incredible sort of symbol of that because Lilith is the original witch. She's um a point of suffering, like in your chart in anyone's chart and it's also like the feminine wound, like where we struggle to be seen or struggle to receive and be valued. And so we instead kind of like turn our back and say like, oh we don't need that like, and then also it's like a little just like where you might be blamed for things you didn't do. And it's also where you might blame people for things that like are in your control. But like you just maybe aren't able to see, it always are all the time. It's like a little point of maybe um like misunderstood narcissism, which like, I mean that's really loaded word these days, but just in the plainest way. Um and so little thing Pisces is like, it's like this water sign, it's the last sign of the zodiac. So it's kind of like the psychic like crybaby, like it's like a baby and an old person in one. So I mean it's kind of like blaming a child for witchcraft I guess um is pretty good. And it's just like this like misunderstood like paranoia, like projection of like people like, like fear onto like, you know, literal Children
ELYSE: And Lilith like just in historical legend. Um Lilith was actually Adam of Adam and Eve fame. Um that was Adam's first wife, but apparently she would not submit to dominance ak the missionary position. So she peaced out of the Garden of Eden, she was like, hmm, I don't want to be here.
SARAH: So Lilith, but also just to backtrack for a second Tituba in that bar moment. She also dropped another bomb, which is important to note and that's that she said besides the two women, she called out Sarah Goodman and Sarah Osborne, there were other names in that book of like the devil that she knew were there, but she couldn't make out. So that kind of made everyone be like book, there's more where it starts, Yes, but then jumping back to Lilith, Lilith got really bitter after she got kicked out of the garden.
ELYSE: But yeah, this seems like peak Lilith energy.
SARAH: She's pissed and now she's known at least, I think in like Judaism, um she's known in fables as like this demon that kidnaps babies. So like, you know, not the best look, but Lilith is important right now, because her energy is like shadowy energy, it's really what you rebel against, its associated with this. Like, what I think of, at least as like, strange, mysterious kind of witchy, like, it's like taboos, I would say, right, Dana, like, it's like.
DANA: I mean, it's definitely if people like, have taboos. Yeah, it's like a great place to look if you have it for, like, there are like, people who maybe aren't acknowledging they're sort of like darkness and I mean, they should, like, maybe they have like, a little thing, like, a really, you know, you can tell so much about a person by where there's this place, like, I mean, like, I, mine is in the third house. So, like, of course, I have a podcast about gossip and astrology.
ELYSE: And what's the third house again?
DANA: Communication, and uh early childhood education. It's like your immediate environment, there's so much available and also a little bit Pisces is like, it's like a powerful love. It's like Pisces, I mean I give them ship but like they get blamed for a lot.
SARAH: And so with this transit going on, Sarah good is one of the first women to be narced on by Tituba.. And Sarah was pregnant beggar that was pretty unpopular in the town because she kind of like spoke her mind, she had disagreements with her neighbors. Like, you know, she wasn't really like falling in line with like this like puritan very like structured society. So no one's really fucking with her to begin with, you know, so this is like —
DANA: Sounds like she had syphilis brain.
SARAH: Her chat is crazy. So Dana take it away my friend. Okay,
DANA: Well, I mean honestly I could do a whole podcast about this, but that wouldn't be interesting for most people. So I'm just going to talk about um a few really standout pieces, which is that she had Pluto Conjunct the sun in cancer on that day. And like this is a like Sarah, Sarah Dembkowski, our Sarah experienced that and she lived, but like some people
don't and so like and Elyse and I both had it on our moon. Like, you know, we've all really lived through a difficult Pluto transits, so that's why you guys should listen to us. Um but like so in trying to understand what this must feel like. I really just kind of thought of the song stairway to heaven and and like not lyrically but like how it's like Pluto cycles are like this like D. D. D. D. D. And then it goes into like you know like the like guitar, I'm not going to do it that to myself but like super long. It's like like just a different like kind of like different vibes and they seem together or like they seem like they don't go together but then you know you hear it it's more of like ah and then it's just like really fast and then you die and then you get to be reborn sometimes and Sarah Good wasn't as lucky um she didn't benefit in that way. But I mean I believe in reincarnation, maybe she did. Um And so she was hanged so dead. On the date of accusation mars was conjunct her natal moon in gemini. Um And Uranus has just moved into gemini. And so like gemini like I said earlier it like just talks shit and the moon is emotions, it's women and like it's your physical body. Sun is ruled by her moon in gemini. And so that's just kind of like that's really what astrology is if you can like if you don't know how to read a chart, you have to like find like different like if you're reading a transit chart, you find, okay, like here is this conjunction, where do I see that in this chart.
DANA: Yeah, Uranus shows up in a lot of death charts. Um It was in Kobe's, I'm we're not going to get into that any further. But in like every death chart I've read, I've been like, oh it's a significant Uranus and I haven't read that many in just like the, these are obviously like tragic, more unnatural deaths. Is that where you see Uranus show up or is it like a really good point. We don't have Sarah Goode's birth time. It's a miracle that we even have her like her birthday because women at that time, it's like they're like, you can find like, I'm excited to find like historical, like, I mean some authors, I really like if I can find their birth times are birth times. I'm like, yeah, but like it's always like, and he had a wife and like there's no information about, I don't think they thought enough that maybe women should, you know. So this just magnifies the destruction of Pluto because it's like just like these like planets and like Gemini isn't always corrupt, but like I mean it's corruptible. Um and so Pluto is activated by transit in her natal house both by exact aspects, it's not something to be ignored. Um If you open co star and see this just like stay home and prepare to die anyway. A lot of Pluto conjunctions basically just kind of, you know, perfect storm for her death.
ELYSE: But besides that, I think she was really like a prime example of the sort of woman that was targeted by the puritans. Like, you know, she was a single woman, she wasn't submissive, she was definitely weird and just didn't fall in line. She was poor, she was an outcast had a bad reputation. So it's sort of like, I think they went really out of their way to target sort of the fringe people of their society that just were not like them.
SARAH: Keeping that in mind at this point, we're kind of in the timeline where everyone in Salem is in panic mode, no one trusts anyone. There's like wild accusations being thrown around, grown as adults are accusing their neighbors of killing cows or pinching the night, honestly is just so insane. Like if like me and Elyse got into a fight and at least left and then the next day, like my chicken was dead. I'd be like, yo at least sucking killed my chicken, you put her in trial. Like it was so out of control like you would turn a corner and a kid would be like you may be blind and it's like no dog, you literally are just flourished. We're in Salem in the 1600s. You have cataracts.
DANA: Milky eyed children accusing you of ruining their lives would really piss me off. Yeah, so Jupiter left Taurus and entered Gemini in late May and then all earth energy was gone. Like it was like I mean air, water, it's like a recipe for mania. Like Jupiter joined Uranus and and Chiron and Gemini um opposing Saturn and squaring Neptune and so it's just like this is like yeah mania and like gossip and like taking stuff like like there's definitely a consideration of like is this real? Isn't this real? But like I'm just gonna say it anyway like get it out and then consider the reality. Um And so like Mercury also retrograde in Gemini and like it's a comfortable place for Gemini but when it's moving backwards it just like turns up the volume and I'm like what you're willing to say? Um I have that in my natal chart. Um And so there's just like you know nothing to bring these people down to earth and say okay well like what is real, what is true and like how can we be like judicious in this process. Um And then so that like Uranus and Mars in Gemini opposite Saturn. That's like so Gemini is like just unashamed gossip. So it's like just going off the handle like hey did you hear this weird as thing? And it's like yeah you know what? And also that person killed my chicken. They must be a witch like let's go get them, let's like let's wring their necks.
ELYSE: So it just seems like there's just no practical groundedness of earth planets. So you're just like a lot of gossip, everything is spreading like wildfire. Just a lot of mutable energy pack mindset mania. Like what else could, could you know like spur all of these crazy trials to happen.
SARAH: Yeah so the trials begin and I would describe the evidence as thin, most of it was spectral evidence which meant that people would claim that the person they were accusing of being a witch sent like a ghost type thing to their home to do their bidding. So it would be like if I said Dana sent her ghost to my window and started giving us rashes and stuff like that. So like there really was like no basis or witnesses to back this up except the plaintiffs. So it was like the worst version of like he said, she said there was also like a lot of like pageantry in the courtroom that kind of like amped it up a lot like there was a lot of people like moaning while they were testifying and rocking around like screaming like just like yeah just like really over the top shit and like all of this evidence which I say in like the most aggressive use of like hand quotes or whatever, which I hate but like this deserves. It all of this ultimately ends up with 20 or 30 people being hanged and 200 people being accused.
ELYSE: Damn. I mean it's just kind of crazy and ironic because the Puritans just like hated all pomp and circumstance, but then they're like going screaming and moaning and foaming at the mouth in a trial which was just like, yeah, honestly it's like, you know, like let the priests wear like fancy vests. Like I don't know like it's at least makes church a little bit more interesting
SARAH: Yeah, it's like a hot take that's like very hot.
ELYSE: I don't know like maybe if you just let people like have a little bit of fun, they wouldn't have to like go accusing their neighbor, not even like your neighbor had an alibi, but you can still be like, oh she was sleeping but she still sent her ghost to do this.
SARAH: So she has to get, you know, she gets hung. Yeah. And that ultimately like led to the Salem witch trials, like fizzling out. Like it kind of just ended suddenly because it was getting to the point where like it was coming to like your front door, like it wasn't just fringe people anymore. Like everybody was being accused. So finally people started coming forward being like, you know, like we gotta slow this down. Like you just accused my mom. Like she's literally bedridden. She can't use her legs. There's no way she could be out in the woods. Like tits out casting spells. So, so then this guy who I want to call him a magistrate, but I'm not sure of that title, but he's like a high up guy comes forward and he's like, okay, we've made a horrible mistake murdering people because someone said they turned into a ghost and pinch them. Poor choice on our part. So right now, if you're in jail, if you're awaiting trial and you have spectral evidence as proof, you know, It's canceled. You know, you're free now you're good. Everyone's good. So everyone stop calling people, which is um, everyone's like fine I guess like this is what we'll do. So in 1693 the trial stop and then a few years later they have a day of contrition where they fast and hate themselves for killing a bunch of people for no reason.
ELYSE: I don't know if that sounds like justice to me, but okay, we'll take it.
DANA: I mean honestly the day of contrition sounds a lot like black squares on Instagram,
But it's just something to consider. I mean, it's not something, I'm not condemning anyone. I'm not here to have a trial I'm here to and talk about planetary placements and how they affect our real life. There are a lot of transits going on and just like the one that's super significant is um like on the day that they stopped the trials and they were like, wait, okay, we'll just end this, Pluto was at zero degrees Leo and that's just like a switch from like hating women to like hating yourself. Like Leo is the sign of the self. So in new ways of like introspection and you know, it just kind of like, I was like, oh, well that's, that's that
ELYSE: That was lucky. What if it didn't stop at, you know, 20 people, you know, thank God, that that was all.
DANA: Well, and there were other planets of course, like, like, first of all the fall usually ushers in a lot of like earth energy with Virgo and stuff, but like, everyone was like, let's like reel it in now, You guys have, you hated women enough and now you must save yourselves. And so like, then that gave everyone a chance to hate themselves, which is really great, I think for anxiety.
ELYSE: But yeah, I think in general these trials just really show that the dangers of isolationism, religious extremism, false accusations, and lapses in due process. I'm sure they didn't even know what due process was back then, but you know, fast forward to now when we do know what all of these are and we've read history books and we're like oh we're learning from history but like there are a lot more examples of modern day witch hunts. Like you had Mccarthyism in the fifties where all of a sudden your neighbor and his golden retriever were like a secret Russians spy and then my personal favorite the Satanic Panic in the eighties and nineties, which was just accusing everyone of being satanists all of a sudden.
SARAH: Yeah like I love the Satanic Panic. I don't even like like weird old rock but I just think of like ACDC for some reason when I think about it because like what a time to be a goth. Like basically the Satanic Panic was all these people started accusing daycares of satanic ritual abuse which like 100% did not happen. It was a lot like the more I look into it it was a lot like the Salem Witch Trials in terms of like the accusations being made were like completely unsubstantiated claims from children. So like Salem was like people just saying like you did this like I can't back it up that is what happened in the nineties but only with kids. So kids would just say this shit that they were kind of tricked into saying by like police officers and like in my opinion like very coercive prosecutors and quack psychiatrists um at the same time something that's also interesting is that there's a lot of stranger danger being taught.
ELYSE: So yeah, this is like prime like 60 minutes, like stories of kids getting, you know, picked off the streets like, you know dare. Like all of these things are just like everyone's every parent is just like scared all of a sudden.
DANA: There was an Oprah episode I saw that my grandma like taped for me and had me watch where it was like, it was like if you're like, if someone kidnaps you and like binds you and put you in the back of a trunk, kick out the taillights. I think that John Mulaney actually talked about this, but I remember this happening like, and like wave through or like kicking like, like punched through the back of the tail lights that you're like waving. And I just remember being like, I don't like I truly being so afraid that I was going to be kidnapped instead of thinking like, okay, like what will I do otherwise? The events leading up to the kidnapping, they never said like I knew how to escape a trunk of a car, but like maybe just like you shouldn't engage with strangers in the first place. That would probably be a better message. I mean my family actually, yeah, we were big on like not satanic panic, but like kidnapped panic. Like my grandma told me like if I was ever kidnapped by a man to like kick him in the middle of his legs and if I was ever kidnapped by a woman too, like I feel like maybe do the same, but then if anyone ever picked me up to stick my thumbs in their eyes.
So I still think about this.
SARAH: So I mean we all learned from our parents how to deal with strangers in different ways but the thing is, is like the whole thing about stranger danger though, probably beneficial in a way was that it just made you fear people that like we're different from you and that's like very Salem witch trials to um and the most notorious example of the satanic panic is the West Memphis Three, which like I would love to cover one day because I love it, it's such a fun story but so interesting. But they were three fringe teenagers in a small town, like a small southern town, one was goth, one was like a metal head, one just had like a low I. Q. And they were accused yeah it was sad um it was like one of those situations were like a false confession and they were accused of murdering these three little boys and they were found guilty on like no evidence whatsoever. It was basically just that everyone accused them of worshiping Satan and they said like this crime was so heinous that it could only be committed by someone who didn't believe in God, so sad.
DANA: What I took away a lot from like judging these charts are like looking at them, and when I say judging a chart, there are ways to judge a chart. It's a thing in astrology, I'm not talking about like passing judgment um like just like which aside and like it's kind of like mass hysteria of like accusing people of like having the wrong beliefs. Like I've noticed it shows up a lot when the like the outer planets are in mutable signs, like Sag Saturn and Sagittarius. Um And so like the behaviors like manic but like a scandal is brief, it's like uh and then it's like okay, like never mind, you know what I mean? Like these things like last for, you know, obviously like the people who are condemned for it. Um And so like the entire period of hysteria for Salem is less than a year long and like we've had similar placements in recent years, um Saturn was in Sagittarius during the peak of the Satanic Panic in the eighties. And we have Saturn in Sagittarius and Neptune in Pisces when cancel culture started really gaining steam in like that was 2015 through 2017. That like we're still actually seeing the like the remnants of cancel culture, obviously it's like actually I wouldn't even say it's peaked yet, I'm not sure, I think we're just getting, we're just getting started up again,like I mean another episode for another day, I would love to do. Um but like Satanic Panic. Um that was like yesterday, it was in Sagittarius from 1985 to 1988 it was like equally sinister but more psychological in terms of violence with like greater pathology. I mean obviously like science has come a long way, but like they weren't even like, they had like basically contracted like, like psychiatrists with like more like um who had like malicious intent, you know? It wasn't like they were like sort of like these uh objective kind of people, they were like, they had, you know, an agenda.
ELYSE: And so really it's like Saturn and Sagittarius is sort of like a theme here. And how often how often does that happen? Like is that there is that very common every 30 years?
DANA: Every, well it's like around 28-30, but it takes usually 30 for like the exact placement to hit, but um since that Saturn spends around two years in each sign. Um so interesting, but like Saturn is a planet. Um I personally, and I think maybe you guys can speak to it, like when Saturn went back into Capricorn on July 1st, I like felt it, like I woke up in the middle of the night and I was like, it's back, like just like having an Aquarius was so nice, like being like, like I'm free, you know, I get to be like this person, but um I felt it uh and so I think that people feel Saturn, that's what they called the Saturn return because I think you kind of feel the restraint in your sign for the whole time, it's there. Yeah, or like the lessons like keep hitting you in different ways.
SARAH: Um I think Saturn like it gets a bad rep, but I feel like it's one of my most dominant planets and I feel like you need Saturn like it kicks your ask, but it's going to show you like what you need to change to like better yourself or like what's not working, like, you know, like right now it's in Saturn's in Capricorn, so it's kind of like weeding out the wrong in like what Capricorn rules, which is like structures government or they like big organizations, so don't hate that much on Saturn, but..
DANA: I don't hate it. I mean, I don't hate any of the planets. I think they're all interesting and I think that they all can like, like, I don't hate Saturn and Sagittarius either. Like, some of my best friends have Saturn in Sagittarius. I know people who, do you know, I could really reference them, I could bring you guys a list. Uh and I think it's great to like, people need to be like judicious and like how they believe in things and like really, like, I like that people can like posture it, but it's not a comfortable because like Sagittarius wants to be, you know, we've talked so much about how it's like a kind of a freedom and Saturn’s restriction and there's like that they're so also Sagittarius is the sign of the philosopher, so it like cuts down on like different philosophies and then like maybe like really gets dogmatic about them, but then it's like able to be like no, no, no sorry about that, like you can have your career back, my bad.
SARAH: Um So do you think like Saturn in Sag e in terms of like so far what we've seen like the witch trials, like mccarthyism, which were probably assuming also like Saturn was in Sag we like at least like brought up for a second and then like obviously satanic panic, like what do you think the lesson, it's trying to like tell?
DANA: I think a lesson of Saturn in Sagittarius is like, it could be that like just like consider your beliefs and your philosophies right? Like maybe like people like I know how much stronger I feel about what I think when I hear someone saying something that I think is ridiculous. Yeah, which actually that just makes me put me on their level like so that I could like really real it in but like I mean just to get back to like the Salem witch trials, like something that I thought was super interesting was that they were drowning women who were accused of being like one of the um like kind of like tests of witchcraft was like to drown women who were accused of being witches based on the notion that like mortal women will float and witches have hexed water because it's used in baptism so like what the fuck?
SARAH: Which is so weird and we obviously didn't get like into like the death-ness of the Salem witch trials, but like this to me is so interesting because also it's like dude, it's like fucking science because they didn't only get hung, like they didn't only get hung, they also were drowned as well.
DANA: Well, but I mean yeah, they are so, but that's like interesting to that you say that because like being hanged is like okay, like that's like a surefire way that that person is going to die right? But like here's like, it's like almost like a fake opportunity to live, but like also otherwise you could die in the most like painful sick way, like you can't even like use your limbs, like you just like floating to the bottom of the water, being like I fucking just wanted to get away from these people and they followed me into the woods. Yeah and so like the astrology of this I think is a sun conjunction lilith conjunction Neptune. So lilith and Neptune were all next to each other in pisces when on the first day of like the first day that they like went out for hunting um and so Neptune and pisces both represent water and Neptune and lift both indicate a potential for paranoia or like an area where we might not be able to see clearly, so like an obscurity of details and this was square Saturn. Um so which is, you know, everything I've talked about at length um and so at worst, I think Neptune makes us capable of like great delusion and the kind of things that we only see in retrospect when discussing the sort of like right and wrong sides of history and like what was like, you know, like people were like, what do you want to be on the right side? Like it's like a thing that it's talked about again in retrospect as opposed to the current state of events.
SARAH: Yeah, that's like a great way to sum up all of this. Like whenever Neptune is in pisces babies like hold onto your dicks because ship is going to get weird boy.
ELYSE: Yeah, Dana, you'll have to like let us know when that's coming up. But yeah, I mean, I think just—
DANA: It's right now. Oh cool,
ELYSE: Great. Oh my God,
DANA: Must be done with it by 2025.
ELYSE: What? Oh cool. Already, five more years. Can't wait transits right now, like, oh my God, what a time to be alive. But speaking of great delusions, our next episode, we're going to get deep into cults.
SARAH: Hell yes.
ELYSE: So we're going to talk about the Jonestown massacre, Heaven's gate, we're going to talk about cult leaders, it's going to be pretty delusional and, and interesting. So yeah.
SARAH: Yes, I am so pumped. But before you could listen to that, you need to wait another week and you need to follow us on instagram at Allegedly Astrology for I don't normally use the word dank, but I would describe Dana's memes as dank. They honestly, I don't know where she finds these images but they will make you chuckle with laughter at the very least. Um so follow us there for more behind the scenes content, those memes and like let us know by yelling at us what you want to learn about next.
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