The Astrology of the Royal Family
This SZN 2 finale episode, the girls dive into a topic that forever brings the dramz: the story of Virgo Prince Harry and Leo Meghan Markle. They talk Harry and Meghan’s sizzling AF biwheel, how similar Harry and Charles’ charts are, the biwheel of Meghan and the UK Press (YIKES!) and fangirl about the People’s Princess Diana.
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DANA: Making my way downtown Walking fast Faces past. Mm hmm, mm hmm, mm hmm.
ELYSE: Hello and welcome to Allegedly Astrology. Each week we'll be breaking down the astrology that happened during some of the biggest scandals and events in history. And this is our final episode of season two. You couldn't believe it. Like I can't believe we're here.
DANA: I can't believe it.
ELYSE: I know it's it's wild. Um and just like last season will be taking a few weeks off before season three, but we'll definitely be back in the meantime with bonus eps Allah Hilaria part do in case something like that happens.
DANA: So I pray every
ELYSE: She's in for it, I'm sure of it. But Dana, what are recovering on this season finale episode?
DANA: Today we're talking about the royal family drama involving Meghan Markle and Prince Harry.
ELYSE: Yeah, I mean this was a listener request from Alicia but you know, obviously we just, we couldn't not do something about this. So if you have other ideas for us, make sure to send us some topics you want to get covered. You can shoot us a DM you can send us an email. All of our info um is within the description of the episodes. So it's really not hard to find us honestly. So um so back to Harry and meghan Meghan. Markle and Prince Harry raised some eyebrows when they made plans to step down from their official royal roles in 2021 then they shocked everyone yet again when they did a Tell all interview with Oprah and in the interview, they definitely aired some dirty laundry about the royal family and we just could not get enough. I mean it was the gossip that the entire world just like who was ravaged by covid news. Like we desperately needed this interview like we did. Um So let's learn a little bit more about these lovebirds and how they came to be.
SARAH: So Meghan Markle is an American former actress who's known for her role on the show suits. I never watched the show. Did you guys?
ELYSE: I did actually and I did like it.
DANA: I don't watch USA TV.
SARAH: So Meghan Markle was on that show that Elyse loved, but also she's also biracial with a white dad and a black mom. And I'm only saying this because it race plays a pretty big deal in this whole story we're covering. Um but then on the other hand we have Prince Harry, honestly pretty hot um for being so Prince Harry is obviously as his name would suggest, a prince um he's the youngest son of Princess Diana, love her forever and Prince Charles and his sixth in line for the throne of England. So Harry and Meghan got married in 2018 and then they had a child named Archie and are now expecting their second child.
ELYSE: From the moment that they started dating the British press were absolute dicks to Megan and this becomes a huge issue that still continues to be an issue today. Um the British press have like a very sordid history with um you know like you think like american paparazzi is bad, like the british press and tabloids are like so much worse but even at one point Prince Harry pleaded with the press to like stop trolling her and being mean to her which is very un british and very unlike the royal family, they just kind of are taught to like you know, shut your mouth and take it and the very night in shining armory of him, his request just like didn't do much and the couple faced even more scrutiny because like we said the british press are dicks and the couple has gone through a lot together so I would love to know what thereby wheel is like and for those of you new to this by wheels when you overlap the charts of two people and you get to see how their planets interact and by seeing how their planets interact, you get an idea of kind of how they are in the relationship together.
DANA: Okay, so Prince Harry was born on September 15th 1984 at 4 20 PM in Paddington England and he has a Capricorn rising, Virgo Sun, Taurus moon, this is an earth tried and I mean that is like very hot and very rich um again like I said, he's my type and so the cap arising like these people approach life with responsibility in mind, they're organized, they like to take charge. Virgo Suns are also organized and like very anal retentive. Their destiny is to be of service. And like he served in the British military and he's a Taurus moon which is like sensual. They're hot. They're like baths and money, tourist is like design that represents money.
SARAH: They like baths and money.
ELUSE: I will stan a Taurus Moon always.
DANA: Same. Um and like he loves his home and he loves his family and like loyalty and security for himself and his loved ones are literally the most important needs in his life. And then Megan was born on August 4, 1981 at 4:46 AM in L. A. And she has a cancer rising leo's son and a libra moon. And I like Megan because she's a hot American storing up people internationally and it really speaks to me.
ELYSE: Yeah. And this is not the first time a hot american has started trouble for the royal family. So.
SARAH: Oh really?
ELYSE: Yeah hot tip. So Queen Elizabeth's dad was not supposed to be the king of England if you ever saw the king's speech or the crown. And so basically her dad is the, is the Harry of his family. He's the second youngest son and his older brother abdicated the throne so he could marry a hot American divorcee actress, which Allison's a hot American divorcee actress, Meghan Markle.
DANA: Maggie Maggie girl. So the royal family has a lot of like cyclical like cycles of a cyclical cycle. What if that's not like the dumbest thing I've ever said, brilliant.
DANA: You're a hot American stirring up trouble.
Speaker 2: You're a hot in there. Thank you. That's always trying to be a hot american disturbed trouble. So this is very, it's very interesting how this is playing out, but it's it's much different than sort of like what was happening when I think this, that was in like the 19, like thirties or forties. So anyway, back to Megan,
DANA: Megan is a cancer rising. This is like milf energy. She's super in touch with her needs, her body and the needs of her loved ones um which she's like extremely protective of her family, her kin. Um and she's changeable and tenacious because the moon is the chart ruler or the minister chart ruler. And so this is a celestial body that changes signs most frequently, which makes people with cancer replacements more prone to depression or like just sensitive mood states because they're touched by, it literally like the moon changes signs every 2.5 day. So they have to like change a lot with it and her leo's son, this is like super actor energy, She's destined to perform. She feels most herself when she's putting on a show like this isn't fake, but she can ham it up and she's aware that she's always being watched, like even before she ever was, so she wants to be in control of that narrative. Um and then her libra moon, this means that she feels safest when her relationships are like strong and intact and she's aware of others. Like if someone in her like family or one of her like Children are at any sort of risk, she's automatically in distress. And this is because libra is a sign of partnership and so in there by wheel um Harry's Capricorn rising is opposite Megan's cancer rising, which means that their ascendance are in each other's seventh houses and the ascendant is always in the first house and the sign here indicates how you approach the world. It's the rising, the qualities of the sign and aspects of the ascendant like color your primary perspective in life and in the seventh house is always opposite the first house. And this is the house of marriage and partnership and contracts and anything related to binding agreements and uh like commitment. It's also a zone of projection and it's an area where there's an opportunity for growth because like when your partner's ascendant falls in your seventh house, uh you're a seven and automatically falls in their 7000. It's like a very much a relationship. It's a huge learning opportunity. It fosters interpersonal growth because they are showing you what you can't always see yourself. Um and then Megan mars is exactly conjunctivitis descendant, which is the point of the partner and mars is sex and power. And so this indicates powerful attraction and just a very horny vibes be horny vibes. Indeed. And so to recap what everything that dana just said, Harry's Big Three is Virgo sun. Capricorn rising in a tourist moon and Megan's Big Three is a Leo sun, a cancer rising and a libra moon. And when you look at their charts together, Harry and Meghan feel very protective towards each other, have a very intense attraction and generally will probably learn a lot and grow together through their relationship. So I think they're a good match and I feel when you look at them you could tell they're into each other. It's very cute. Yes, this is not a I don't believe this is like a pr relationship really.
Speaker 1: The tension is palpable.
SARAH: So Harry and Meghan decided to leave their royal roles for real sees at the beginning of 2021. And not too many people were surprised because Harry and Meghan were always bitching about the unfair treatment of Meghan by the deranged U. K. Media. In fact, Harry basically said the press is exactly why they needed to dip and the UK press has a history of honestly being the worst.
ELYSE: Yeah and they've attacked and harassed Megan like for the past few years but Hary also saw this with his mom which will which we'll get to later but you know they've made up like really bizarre conspiracy theories that her pregnancy was fake, she was a sleeper agent for the US, like even though we're straight up allies um and like a big comparison that has been talked about is how the press talks about Kate versus Meghan and you know, and how the press would attack Meghan for things that they previously praised Kate for doing. So like if Kate like wanted avocados when she was pregnant, it was like cute, she craves avocados. And Megan on the other hand, could shave she craved avocados and they would like go after her like rabid animals for saying she loves the food that leads to water shortages. So it's like very bizarre. They even compared Meghan and Harry's son, Archie to a chimpanzee, which is like so racist. It's like not even okay to talk about. I know, but yeah, that is insane all what they did that. Yes, they did. And you know obviously we saw how much the like royal family and the press were like obsessed with like what color would Archie's skin be like all this shit was wild.
SARAH: Looking at Megan and her big three, I think something that stood out to me was her Libra moon and it really makes me feel for her even more just because you know, libras strive to please people, like they really like this like harmony and they don't want to make anyone upset. So just knowing that she tries really hard to like make everyone happy and kind of keep everything and even keel, but no matter what she does, the press messes with her makes me really sad. Like itt must be hard. But Meghan aside, the UK press is notorious for being very aggressive, you know, we have tabloids here in America but it doesn't hold a candle to what happens in the UK. The UK tablets are widely read, there's a ton of them and there's a bunch of competition between the different tabloids. So to stay on top, a lot of the UK press will really kind of think outside the box and do whatever it takes to go after a story or in a lot of cases they will make a story up. So they're constant harassment throughout the years has made a lot of people in the public eye very tense and very like aware of their public image, but it also has led to people killing themselves. Like the former host of one of my favorite UK shows, Love Island.
ELYSE: Yeah, it's like we said, it's really no joke and knowing all of this and the influence of the UK press has had in Harry and Meghan's life and their decision just step down. I feel like we should look at the biwheel between the press and and Megan.
DANA: We have a founding date for The Daily Mail, which is Britain's most circulated tabloid and that's May 4th 1896 in London and uh, I looked at this and Megan and so the press, like the Daily Mail's Jupiter in Leo is in conjunction, Megan's north node and jupiter is like loud and expansive. Um, and it's about like beliefs. Um, and then Leo this relates to like the individual or like, uh, like performances. The Nodes are eclipse points and they relate to our destinies and they can be thought of as like the north on a compass. Um, and so this is like expanding and shining a light on her destiny in a way or it's like maybe like unavoidable that this would happen to her. Like all the negative press and then also press or the Daily Mail's Mercury and Geminis are conjunct Megan's part of fortune and the part of fortune is a point calculated based on your sun moon and rising and it relates to events that occur in your life that are beyond your control and or things that happen to your body and thus your image and Mercury rules Gemini. Um, and communication. So Mercury is at home in Gemini. Um, it also rules press and like anything related to the minds and like this is like big gossip energy. So this kind of like makes the paper or the Daily Mail more likely to sort of like ham up like big stories about her because again, Leo in Jupiter and Leo like isn't, it's not a lying placement, but it's not concerned necessarily with the truth because it's like about playing roles and like making them big and with like Mercury uh in Gemini, it's like let's talk, let's talk, let's talk, let's just say things and then and then we find out what their true after we've said them.
ELYSE: Yeah. And this to me is very crazy. All these placements and how they interact with Megan just because you know, I feel like this is one of those times we say this every episode, but the astrology is really coinciding with real world events in a way that is almost like too good to be true. So, to sum up with Dana just said, the Daily Mail has jupiter and leo which is, you know, x like very expansive. But it's also like holding up a magnifying glass to like self image. It's also very like look at me and it's interacting with Megan's North node and that's going to show that the presses, especially the Daily Mail is going to have a role in her destiny and the destiny and like the direction that her life is going in which obviously that happened and the Daily Mail's Mercury's in Gemini was just really, really gets me because Mercury is it Mercury and Gemini is interacting with Megan's part of fortune, which shows that the press is honestly nonstop talking about her to a point that's going to affect her and her self image and she can't really do anything about it.
SARAH: Yeah, Harry and Meghan stepping down really divided the people of England. Some people think it's like super progressive that they wanted to go off and live their own lives, but others see them as brands that were like complaining about their seamlessly uh seemingly easy royal duties. And in the UK, the royal family receives money from this grant from the government and along with that Grant comes certain rules like not being able to make your own money while also having to grant the press access to a lot of areas of the royal family's lives. So it's really um it's not as like easy as like, oh I'm going to like live in this castle and like where jules and like everything is easy peasy.
DANA: You can make money from there and if they're living in the castle they cannot, they cannot have a merch line.
SARAH: But obviously like knowing that the press gets all this access to the royal, the lives of the Royals, Obviously knowing Meghan's relationship with the UK press, like they weren't really going to be down with that. So after their exit is official, they have an interview with our Lord and Savior, Oprah and Chicago. Honestly, it literally feels like an exit interview with like an HR person. So from talking to Oprah there were a few takeaways but one of the bigger topics was that there was some racism going on allegedly someone within the royal family was wondering about the skin color of Harry and Meghan's Baby was also pretty sus that Archie their son was told he would not have a title or get any personal security, it is not okay, but is that that's surprising. This is the oldest and whitest institution in the world. Like how can that surprise you? What world are you living in?
ELYSE: Yeah, it's this is just really like, it shouldn't be a surprise, but it's like it's literally pulling back the curtain to reveal all the ugliness that's been there all along. And you know, I think going back to like Megan's, what what Dana was saying about Megan's libra moon when she like is very aware that if someone in her kin or offspring are at risk, she's automatically in distress. So like can you imagine how hard it was for her to be told that her son, what would not be getting any security protection because they chose to leave? Like no wonder she was in such like a state of emotional distress of like, you know, okay fine, like maybe Harry and I can live without security, but like my son, like he has to go to school, he has to like be in the world and he gets nothing like no protection. So so speaking of emotional distress before we continue, we just want to say that the rest of this episode should come with a trigger warning because we are going to be talking about things like suicidal thoughts, um self-harm and eating disorders. So definitely you know, if this is something that might cause you distress, please don't continue to listen to the episode, but we just wanted to let you know and they were sensitive to these, to these issues. So back to the Oprah interview, another big reveal that shocked people was Megan's battle with suicidal thoughts. Megan went into her position in the royal family kind of blindly again, like we said, you know this, she was walking straight into like one of the most racist institutions, but you know, people were probably really nice to her face and you know, she might, she might not have realized like all that it entailed and I think it was a really rude awakening when she realized the lack of autonomy that she had being in this family. Like she couldn't really do anything without her own permission, you know, and that compiled with like the press harassment, It just she said it led her to consider killing herself, which you know, like Daniel was mentioning, you know, she has that cancer placement that's just sort of like it makes you really vulnerable and in a scary position and a lot of people that I think said, oh you know, you're didn't like Bethany didn't say a tweet, like you're a little bit like, oh you you like live in a castle, like you have no problems and it's like, you know, like this should shine a light. Like everybody has problems. Bethany literally has had so many massive public breakdowns on the real housewives so it's like come on Bethany like your life isn't so fucking bad either. You know, instead of a castle you live in a goddamn penthouse so it's like come on, glass houses.
ELYSE: Glass castles in this case.
SARAH: So I mean her coming out and saying that was you know very eye opening but the double takes didn't end there because Megan also claimed that when she went to the royal family to bring up the situation and the fact that you know she was having these suicidal thoughts, they told her to get over it mostly because it wouldn't be a good luck look for the royal family and this probably does seem incredibly harsh to us but you have to remember that british people are not about that emotional life, this is a culture where for the majority of their existence they were just told to push all their emotions down until they probably like got cancer or something, Keep calm and carry on. Which like is now I think a Pinterest like yeah Pinterest quote, keep calm and carry on. That literally was a thing because bombs were raining down on England in World War One and then
DANA: Churchill said that after three days of being on like dexter Amphetamine because he had to like lead the armies 24 7, he didn't know what being calm really meant when he said it butgoddamn, he led the army so good for him.
SARAH: So British people are known for having a stiff upper lip. They are like unswayed able, that's the way they're supposed to be, they're not supposed to show that they have problems or like that, their emotional, that's just for regular as british people.
ELYSE: So for the royal family, it's like keep calm and carry on on steroids. But Harry and Meghan also revealed that there is some family drama involving Harry's dead. It Prince Charles and prince Charles. If you guys have seen the crown, like you know, he's fucking sucks, but you know Charles, he's a real man child and you know, he allegedly stopped taking their calls after the couple said they wanted to leave their royal duties and this is a pretty big piece of gossip that the family is pretty fragmented because like Sarah said like they want to keep a united front at all times. And so I feel like we have to look at the by wheel between prince Charles and Harry um, to reveal how how big these daddy issues might be.
DANA: Charles was born on November 14th 1948 at 9 14 PM in London. So he has a Scorpio sun, Taurus moon and um Leo rising and he was born on tourists full moon eclipse, which is interesting.
ELYSE: I take back what I said about Taurus moons.
DANA: No, I can't believe the replacements can be all things, there are so many aspects and so many different variables
SARAH: You know what this reminds me of like because tourists moons are so sensual and I would never imagine him being sensual, but remember when that that telephone conversation between him and Camilla came out and it was like walking and he was like, I wish I could be your tampon,
DANA: It's really, really hard to make me. break and that makes you want to go to hole. that tampon thing. Okay, so they both have venus in libra, they both have mars in Sagittarius, both of their moons are in tourism. Both their north nodes aren't tourists. So what I'm looking at here is comparing the similarities and so venus and mars are planets that relate to like the attraction principle often um venus's love beauty and like willing things to come to you mars sex aggression, survival and penetration. The moon is what makes us feel safe and secure and the north node is an eclipse point of fate and destiny. And so I've seen a lot of discourse regarding the similarities between Megan and Diana and I don't dispute those and we'll touch on them later, but I'm interested in these similarities shared by harry and Charles and they're interesting to me because I think that like we often inherit our parents tastes and patterns and this kind of like highlights that so it's like, I think they could be drawn to similar women to write very much so. And I think like you said, they inherit traits from their parents and like luckily Harry got to inherit traits from Diana, whereas prince Charles, you know, his mother was the queen and like I'm not knocking the queen of England, but you know, there's not, there's, she definitely wasn't a warm and fuzzy mom for sure. Like she did not give him any like emotional like stability really. She was busy like best friends.
ELYSE: So yeah, if you see how all the kids turned out, like I think there's a big difference and you know, I think who their mom is mid big one, but um you know, Harry and Charles have a ton of similar placements. Like I was very surprised to see how similar that they actually were um and it will influence them in similar ways when it comes to what they value, what they love, how they show initiative and anger, how they express emotions and like even their destiny, which is definitely interesting. But I'm also wondering is there anything in their charts like that would be causing tension between them.
DANA: Yeah. So I think that they just like, see an approach life differently. Harry's son is in Virgo, He's ruled by Mercury, um which is ruled by Mercury and it's like the most and only neutral planet in the solar system and his rising is in Capricorn, which is ruled by Saturn, which is the planet of restraint, commitment and reverence and contrarily Charles. Sun in Scorpio is ruled by mars which can make them more suspicious and impulsive and action oriented. You can make them act in ways that are like you know just like uh dicey or like shady and then his rising in leo is ruled by this Scorpio sun. And so also like wants to be seen in like needs validation. Whereas um it's a lot different than like Harry’s like more tempered you know approach to life.
ELYSE: Yeah so it seems like Harry definitely has that more like restrained neutral like committed vibe and Charles is a little more like impulsive, secretive action oriented. Which like yeah you have to be to carry along like a 20 something year like straight up affair. Like that's sucking commitment to shadiness right there.
SARAH: Back to the Oprah interview now that we know a bit more about the dynamic between harry and Charles. The Oprah interview raked in the ratings. There were over 17 million people who watched in the U. S. And there were millions more in the U. K. And the next day it was everywhere every outlet was talking about it was trending on social. So what are the transits of this day? And if I had to guess I'm gonna say mars in Gemini we love to mars and Gemini you have known.
DANA: mars 7 2021. Yeah mars and Gemini. Conjuncture Megan's part of fortune again. So mars and Gemini is empowered to go off and isn't afraid to point out details or calls it like it sees it um it's like empowered to do so and then again the part of fortune is this point of fate in our charts that's calculated based on your big three and it's connected with faded moments or things basically outside of a person's control,especially things that connect to our, you know, body and our image. And so these are all in Megan's 12th house, which is uh her Gemini house. and so the 12 houses about secrets. And so I think that with Mercury rule in this house, it's likely that she's filled with secrets. Like we just got a real little taste. And so I know I'm really crossing my fingers that she tells us more. Um and then the south node in Sagittarius was conjunctivitis mars and the South note again isn't eclipse point and it's also connected with faded moments, but it's an astronomical calculation based on the moon and invaded astrology. It's um considered um elliptic or like a foreboding point and I'm still not decided how I feel about the nodes in terms of like negative or positive connections, but I do find that the south node often can like Harken back to the past almost like a planet that's retro grading. And so I think that this kind of um this aspect signifies like like them stepping down from the royal family, like his removal from the royal family since mars is about like power and survival and so this is like him going off on his own.
ELYSE: Yeah so like obviously I think it was January 2021 that was the official date but I think this like Dana said like this was like the true in the public's eyes like this is how he removed himself from his family. And so to recap the day the Oprah interview aired, Mars was surprised in Gemini. So that gets people talking always those Gemini placements. People are always chatting and this transit happening in Megan's 12th House deals with secrets. Um so this was definitely the right time for her to spill the proverbial tea and Harry also had a transit that would really make him separate himself from his past which whoa that's deep Besides all the gods people were salivating over. There was a lot of realization that Megan seemed like another v famous member of the royal family who was also known for stirring shut up Harry's own mother. The one the only an eternal icon, the people's princess Princess Diana.
SARAH: I want to clap when I hear her name. She's so amazing.
DANA: I wish that you did every time. Every time you say Diana.
SARAH: So in fact a lot of people say that Harry said he wanted to marry someone like his mother which normally to me is murdering but in this instance I think it's cute. it is very cute and if you don't know who Princess Diana was which like what? Um she was truly an amazing, amazing woman. She was married to prince Charles and she was very well known for her glamour and her activism and before dying in an insanely tragic car accident, she took the world by storm and everyone was truly obsessed with her. Like a worldwide phenomenon obsessed. Yes and I am one of those people because to me, Diana, the more I learned about her, the more I think she is the fucking coolest. She was very carefree and confident. In fact in the eighties she danced with john Travolta at the White house gala and you have to remember oh my God I'm obsessed with this. Like you have to remember during this time John Travolta wasn't like a weird bald scientologist, this was his prime like peak hotness and everyone, when she danced with him at this gala lost it. It was like everybody was talking about, they're like oh my God, she's so cool and from that moment everybody wanted to be around Diana like she was very popular. Her popularity caused tension in her marriage because her husband Prince Charles was just very like very bitter that he wasn't the center of attention anymore. So he just pouted and sulked all the time. Like a giant baby.
ELYSE: Yeah, he was such a dick to her like literally because people liked her more than him which Is crazy, but Diana like didn't act like a royal at all. And we have to remember like she was also extremely young like when they got married, she was like 20 or something like 19 when they got engaged. So she was like literally just about to like hit her prime. Um and she you know Royals just had this kind of cold veneer and maintain like a very like a hard separation from the general public, but that really wasn't Diana's style and she, it wasn't just like she was cool with celebrities or diplomats, like she was very philanthropic and she really cared about everyday people. Yeah, she had a lot of charities that were very important to her. But one thing she did that had a major impact On kind of culture and the way people see things was she shook the hand of an AIDS patient without wearing gloves and this might not sound dramatic, but when she did this, it was during the 80s and this was when the AIDS pandemic was really hitting people still didn't know that much about it and people honestly thought you could get AIDS from shaking someone's hand. So her doing this like changed the perception and she did it on Yeah, she like everybody was like oh what she was like oh you think you could get AIDS look at this bit like look at me, shake his hand when Diana would meet people, she was very, it was very important to her to get on the level of the person just like be on that same level whether it was a person in a wheelchair or a small child. Like she just knew how to communicate with people in a very genuine and sincere way, which is why everyone loved her so much. Like she was truly the people's princess. She wasn't another dusty old bitch and you know, I would like love to know, I need to know her big three.
DANA: Um She's a Sagittarius rising, a cancer sun in Aquarius Moon. She was born on july 1st 1961 at 7:45 p.m. In Sandringham England.. I cant do a british accent. Um So Sagittarius rising committed to social justice needs physical activity and movement. So not really a great placement to be confined. Like literally they need to like move to like be like healthy and sane and like need freedom to come and go. She had a Cancer Sun. So this is kind of like cancer. Megan's cancer rising displacement. Um can be prone to like mood, I don't wanna say mood disorders. So I'm not a doctor but like, I mean just like depressive states or like, you know, they're sensitive, they're vulnerable like a crab. Like you know, wanted to protect themselves and because it's ruled by the moon. And so the moon often has to do with what we direct inward because the moon relates to emotions and sort of like things that have happened to our body. Um which also includes like psychosomatic supposed to do their physical bodies. And so emotions can be manifested in her body and the sun relates to destiny. And this placement also makes her extremely sensitive to like energies around her, which includes the people around her. And so cancers are like super tenacious and they want to accommodate the needs of those they love. Um, and with her Sagittarius rising like Diana like loves the world, especially those who don't have as much or you know, are like in distress and so her Aquarius moon like this can make her like maybe you know have some of that like royal glamour like that Aloofness. Maybe like it can also don't want to say necessarily out of touch with her own needs because I almost doubt that a cancer son ever could be, but she might view her needs within the context of like the collective or as related to the collective and like. So like when you do your needs from like 30,000 ft, you're less likely to take care of yourself in comparison to everything else you see going on in the world, but like she's more likely to keep things under wraps which could like, you know make for a huge surprise in this interview and everyone's like, oh you have like you know personal issues you know she was so young when she like entered the royal family that I think like she understood like what she needed but because of her like royal duties and that maybe this Aquarius moon placement, she might not have been able to find a healthy balance between you know taking care of herself and taking care of others. So I think you know obviously wisdom comes with age but I think that this is a hard placement, hard placement to have and not like feel guilty about like putting your own needs first.
ELYSE: Yeah so to recap Princess Diana's Big three, she was that cancer sun a sad rising and an Aquarius Moon and you know I think that that really makes sense for her.
DANA: Just to like reiterate about her Aquarius Moon like she's aware of her needs but she's also like been to Africa and she's held starving Children in her lap like she knows that there's like bigger ship going on outside of her and so her needs might pale in comparison I think when you literally come so close with like the distress of the world and you are royal.
SARAH: Yes. So Diana for that reason was very beloved by people but torn up by the tabloids like sounds like someone else we just talked about. So she ends up getting a divorce from prince Charles because he's old and boring and he's cheating on her with this boring woman Camilla Parker Bowles.
ELYSE: So Diana does an interview on BBC where she airs some dirty laundry and this is not a thing you do in Britain because if you're a royal you are tight lit, you know research I've done people do talk about this transformation of Diana, like she started off kind of being like unsure of herself and like a little quiet, but then eventually as things went on, she really kind of like stepped into her power, like she would start dressing super stylish and you know I thought she was hot, so she was like hot and powerful but also very nice. So I feel like her going on this for this interview, she was probably like listen bitch now I'm about to tell my story because I'm not Yeah, I doubt that she was like that going into it fast forward um you know she she does this amazing interview with the BBC where she talks about her mental health, her struggles with bulimia and self harm, her husband's affair.
SARAH: Um one of the best quotes from that interview was she notoriously said there were three people in our marriage so it was a bit crowded which like damn, like oh my God, you know, she very candidly talked about her own affair, her her lack of support from the royal family and again, like we mentioned british people like do not believe in mental health basically and so you know and again this was the nineties. So you know when Megan talking about it now was brave, but like her Diana talking about it then when like the world was not hip to the idea of taking care of your mental health was like huge. Yes. And this interview was seen as insanely controversial. It got a lot of criticism, the Palace, they were just completely blindsided and a lot of people thought Diana was retaliating against her, boring as weird husband. Nonetheless, it was all anyone could talk about. So what was happening in the skies the day of her interview.
DANA: So this was November 20, 1995. Um and Pluto had just entered Sagittarius 10 days earlier on november 10th from Scorpio where it had been transiting Diana's 12,000 since 1984 so for 11 years and Sagittarius is a sign that represents truth and Pluto and the 12 houses both share a theme of secrets. And so this is kind of like just like you know it coming out into the open, it's now in her first house, it can be not only accessed by her, like But it's like within her control. So Pluto's also relates to control and so in the 12th house, it's about kind of like losing control or surrendering control and so this is now it's like within her own control and then also if the sun was conjunction Mercury in Scorpio that day And it was in Diana's 12,000 secrets. And so the sun illuminates and mercury relates to communication. So and Scorpio also is about secrets and depth psychology and like the truth that lives in our guts. So I think that's pretty cool.There were just two transits that we're really going to illuminate the truth and expose some secrets. That definitely happened during this interview. But this wasn't like an interview of a scorned wife. Like I think she really wanted to talk about the royal family like as a whole and like the impact of that, you know, not just like oh my husband had an affair. I think there were a lot of like really important parts of that interview that a lot of people sort of glossed over to like focus on like the prince Charles aspect of iteven to be like oh I'm bulimic. Like people were like this is kind of like the age when people were still like just looked this way and it was like yeah you know so this interview happened about 25 years ago but it was very groundbreaking and as you can see we're still talking about it today.
SARAH: So when you compare Diana and Meghan there are quite a few things that they have in common. For starters they were both outsiders in their own respective ways and they told the royal family's Dusty asked like go fuck themselves. You have to remember that the royal family loves tradition. They do things by the book and when they have to deviate from that book, they do not like it. And in both of these women's cases, the royal family had to abandon protocol. Yeah. And the royal family has a mantra that says never complain and never explain and that's their approach to responding to rumors and accusations. Like they keep that ship behind closed doors. But in both of these cases of Diana and Meghan, they just couldn't do that anymore. Um for Diana, the queen had to come forward after her death and acknowledged the immense loss and grieving her country was going through. Yeah, explaining are literally like my driving forces in life.
SARAH: But something to keep in mind is that you know, British people are not about that life. They don't like emotions, they stuff things down until they get ulcers. But with Diana's death literally the entire country was hysterical. Like people were sobbing on the streets and that's not even hyperbole. Like people just went nuts. The Queen even bowed when Diana's casket rolled past during Diana's funeral procession and I remember looking at that and being like, yes, yes, I love that.
ELYSE: I know to preface like there's a lot we could talk about for Diana's about Diana's death and we will probably save that for another episode. So we're not going to get too deep into it because we're keeping things focused on Meghan and Harry and Diana but you know, again, we'll probably get into that in season three, but back to Megan, both Megan and Diana seem to have a bunch in common, so I would love to know what's going on in there by wheel. Oh yes, this is going to be a good one.
DANA: So Megan's Neptune in Sagittarius is conjunct Diana’s ascendant. Um this is interesting to me, so Neptune is obscurity and transcendence and in Sagittarius it can make it hard to see the truth, or like literally in touch with the divine truths and Sagittarius also relates to religion. Um and Meghan's Neptune conjunct Diana's rising means like it could be like she, it's possible that she can skew Diana's approach or like level it up in a way where it's like some sort of what's the word, like some sort of like a divine connection um and then also she has Pluto and libra conjunction, Hannah's mid heaven and Pluto is a planet of control, power and secrets and libra relates to partnership and justice. The mid heaven is like the point of your legacy in your chart. So Megan's Pluto conjunct Diana’s midheaven could mean that Megan will literally have something to do with the changing or revealing secrets about Diana's legacy. Like she could control Diana's legacy in a way that I think would be interesting. Um and also Megan's mars and cancer is conjunct Diana’s son and so mars again is power and the sun is like your spirit. And so it's possible that literally Megan might actually like hold the reins of power regarding Diana's legacy in a way and mars and cancer is really all about protection and preservation and so it's like, I'm just really interested to see how that plays out.
SARAHL So when we compare their charts, we see that Meghan is going to have some sort of effect on Diana's legacy. Maybe it'll be revealing some info, which I hope like I'm sure she knows some intel as commoners don't. So we'll just have to wait and see.
DANA: I really wanted her in that Oprah interview to be like, oh by the way, the royal family killed Diana.
ELYSE: I think Megan's waiting until she can like publish a memoir and like actually make money off of these um secrets. But it's so fascinating to me that, you know, Diana the money that she ended up leaving to Harry, which we found out in the interview kind of like saved them when the British family like so abruptly like cut them off and like obviously, like neither one of them are poor, like they would have been fine. Like Tyler Perry took care of them, like everything. Yeah, but you know, it's almost like Harry was sort of like, I feel like my mom like wanted me to have money not tied to the royal family because she knew that it was dangerous and that, you know, like that wasn't away. It's almost like he said, it's almost like she saw this coming, which I thought it was really interesting but I love that, you know, to just sum it all up. Diana and Meghan are some real trailblazers and pain in the royal family's asses and 2021 it's like started off with a bang for Meghan and Harry. So Dana like what do you think is going to be coming up next for them?
DANA: I think Megan will just like alter Diana's legacy in a way that proves to be ultimately satisfying uh for me for everyone and hopefully like spiritually relieving to for the public and especially for Harry,
ELYSE: I'm like really looking forward to what they're going to be doing um and seeing where this new life takes them, but you guys, that's a wrap on season two.
SARAH: Yeah, I know it's crazy.
ELYSE: Thank you so much everyone for listening. Following us leaving reviews. We've just had a ton of support from not just our our friends but our our internet friends and new friends alike. So um we haven't been doing this this long and we hope to continue doing it. So we're very grateful to you all so grateful and so
ELYSE: Dana's leo rising is so grateful.
DANA: I'm so validated, honestly thank
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