The Astrology of Hilaria Baldwin
In this bonus episode, we’re talking about the astrology of everyone’s favorite faux Spanish wife, Hilaria aka Hilary Baldwin. We talk how her Cap Sun / Aquarius Moon makes her a disciplined control freak that loves recognition and how two recent eclipses hitting her chart really shined a blinding light on her fake AF background story. YUGE thanks to @traciemorrissey and @deuxmoi for their sleuthing skills.
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ELYSE: Hello and welcome to a special bonus episode of Allegedly Astrology. We're still in the process getting ready for season two, but something popped up recently that was so bizarre, we couldn't help but look at the charts for it and they definitely did not disappoint. So Dana, what are we talking about in this bonus ep?
DANA: Today, we're talking about someone who I just learned existed and I'm so glad I did. Hilaria Baldwin.
ELYSE: Hillary. Hillary. Yes, who would have guessed that in a year? Like 2020, we would end um this wild and crazy adventure by talking about Alec Baldwin's wife who may or may not have faked her heritage for reasons we're still not really sure. I wasn't expecting this, but at the same time I am not at all surprised. So if you're new to this woman, like most of us definitely were, let's get to know her for a sec before we slashed her to pieces for possibly having a personality disorder.
SARAH: So Hllaria Baldwin is a wellness expert, author and podcast host of Mom Brain, which is a podcast about motherhood that honestly seems like nothing I would ever listen to. But she has five children with her husband, Alec Baldwin, who I'm pretty sure called his daughter a pig one time over the phone. Um but anyway, what's her chart like?
DANA: Okay, so unfortunately we don't have a birth time, so we're doing a solar chart today, which is just pretending you're not pretending, but it just makes the first houses the sun. Her sun is in Capricorn and her moon’s in Aquarius and this indicates some heavy control issues or just like very controlled behavior maybe being reserved. Both places are ruled by Saturn, which is the planet of discipline. And Saturn suns are diligent or driven towards achievement. They want recognition and they want the glory of knowing that they've earned it. And Aquarius Moons are aloof. They focus on the collective and like other people um they react to large scale problems, which can be like a coping mechanism for being uncomfortable with their own emotions. Um and a little self-dehumanizing, potentially. Um and so her natal Saturn which rules both of these planets again, is in Scorpio, which like adds the filter to the behavior, making it may be more secretive since Scorpio is the most secretive sign.
ELYSE: This is an interesting combo and you know, I don't know if you guys have done a deep dive on her Instagram because of this like I did, but you know, she's definitely considers herself disciplined. Like she has a flat stomach like 12 days after she has pops out each one of those kids, like she does workouts in heels and like, you know, she's definitely like this very disciplined control freak who absolutely wants recognition but also like kind of appears like aloof and like, oh I'm like a chill mom. So it's kind of this, this chart definitely like indicates that um but the reason why we're talking about her today is that it has been brought to our attention and the internet's attention most importantly that she might be lightly faking her identity. Go figure.
SARAH: Lightly faking. Before we get into this more, we really need to give some props to Tracie Egan Morrissey because yeah, her Hillaria breakdown was very helpful in this episode. Very thorough. So Hillaria’s big thing is that she's always claimed that she was born in Majorca Spain, but she was raised between Spain and Boston. So she said Spain and Boston but it's pretty well documented that that's where she's from Majorca both on her talent booking site and even Google, which this is a little bit later. So things may have changed, but she's always said that English is her second language and that her mom is Spanish and her dad is American, right? She's been on numerous talk shows and done interviews, which people point out are done in varying levels of a Spanish accent and has really gone above and beyond to make being Spanish part of her identity.
ELYSE: Like there is now a widely circulated clip of her where she's doing a cooking segment, but like is she even a chef, like why is she doing that? Um and she doesn't know the word cucumber in English. She's like pointing it and asking the reporter to like help her.
SARAH: Yes, it's just very, I don't know, like kind of a screechy moment, but her Spanish background came into question a little bit before Christmas when a tweet surface that said something along the lines of, you know you have to admire. Hillaria in a decade long grift which love a grift of her Impersonating a Spanish person and everybody kind of was like what?
DANA: So, the tweet broke um within like minutes of the December 21st great conjunction and this is again fresh off the tails and like still during the Gemini eclipse season or the Gemini Sagittarius eclipse season. Um And so first the Gemini solar eclipse occurred on November 30th, it was ruled by Mercury. And because Gemini rules mercury. Mercury rules Hilaria’s
Solar 6th and 9th House. And so these houses relate to like or the six house relates to daily routine and the ninth house relates to beliefs as well as long-distance travel in faraway places. And so when two houses share a ruling planet, one necessarily informs the other. And so it seems like maybe Hilaria’s behavior is like built on this like routine of speaking in an accent from a faraway place, I don't know this is honestly the most I could make out of it in terms of any sort of reasonable explanation. But then also the eclipse descendant was conjuncture natal venus, Uranus conjunction.
SARAH: Yeah the 9th is super crazy to me because right when we started talking about this, I was like, is there anything in her ninth house because like travel faraway places?
DANA: Um But besides that in her natal chart, this venus and Uranus interaction, she has a super interesting because venus is how we endure ourselves to others. And Uranus is originality and quirks. So this kind of shows that Hillary A. Wants others to see her as this super different original person. A. K. A. Maybe she's interesting because she's from a different more exotic place. Um And then when that transiting eclipse makes contact with that natal Uranus in her chart there's going to be like of the big chance that you know a secret possibly something super shocking is going to be revealed.
SARAH: Yeah who could have guessed. That's what I love about Uranus, you never really know what you'll get.
DANA: The best. So the Sagittarius solar eclipse occurred on December 14th and it's ruled by Jupiter. Um And so Jupiter rules Hilaria’s Third and 12th solar houses. And the third house relates to how she communicates with her immediate environment. And the 12th reveals subconscious behavior patterns and like secrets that we keep. So the eclipse is also conjunct her natal Jupiter Neptune conjunction in Sagittarius, which is like the O. G. delusions of grandeur combo. Um which relates to a lot of pathology. And so Jupiter in Capricorn is also transiting her first solar house, which like kind of pulls the secrets out from the 12th into the first and like reveals it and then also informs to some extent how they have shaped her self expression in a way that none of us could have ever guessed
ELYSE: Right. And isn't the 12th house, like mental illness too?
DANA: Well, it's like mental illness, because it's kind of like, that's the house where um it's like, you, your planets there might behave like in a way, you're the last to know, don't let me be the last to know by Britney Spears is the perfect song for this house because you will always do the last, you know what, like, your own self in that house, like, all the things that the house is that it's connecting to. Like, I don't know, like I said, we like talk about astrology, but then when you actually break it down, I'm like, holy shit, like, scared for myself, like, what's going to happen to me, right? I mean, at the end of the day, like this racing eclipse played a huge part in revealing her conscious or subconscious behavior for all the world and all the internet to see.
SARAH: Yes. And since that infamous tweet that broke all this open, people have really been digging deep into her past, and a lot of her former classmates have been coming forward, they honestly don't have bad things to say about her. Um but we definitely wanted to break down, kind of like all the things that people have said compared to, like what she has said in the past or alluded to. So let's all start with her name, I'm gonna try and pronounce it the way that I saw her doing it in that one video which will haunt me. Um Hilaria. Hilaria. Yes.
ELYSE: But um according to the internet and former classmates on twitter, her name is actually just straight up Hillary Hayward Thomas and she grew up in Massachusetts and like Sarah said, people don't have too many bad things to say about her, but they're just like, yeah, she's fully just like a white girl from Cambridge, like plain and simple.
SARAH: Yeah, that's like a corn fed name, you know, no one would be like this girls from Majorca, but then they started digging into her mom because she said her mom was Spanish, but it turns out that her mom and her grandfather and her grandmother and even her grandmother's parents, we're all born and raised in Massachusetts.
ELYSE: Like they're like one step away from being pilgrims basically. I think they're descendants of pilgrims, right?
SARAH: Actually might be, I'm not sure. Then, a genealogist even looked at her mom's family tree and was like, there's just no Spanish to be found here. Honestly awkward. So then people were like, okay, maybe her dad's side is Spanish. Um but they honestly are from the beginning of America, so there's like not a chance in hell, there's any Spanish there. Um But it's weird because she recently said this year that she moved to New York when she was 19 and that's like the first time she came to the United States right? But again that's definitely not true. Both of her parents were working in Massachusetts at that time, no one would have been in Majorca and then it later came out that okay wait her parents have a vacation home in Majorca and are retired there but everyone's like but like having a vacation home somewhere doesn't mean that's like your heritage right? Like it's very odd.
DANA: Honestly this is like a reverse Salem witch trials where like instead of like a bunch of people like just like accusing her, like a bunch of women getting accused of like something they didn't do, it's like one woman getting like just being asked about something she for sure is
doing.
ELYSE: But yeah what's in her chart that like what's her deal like let's get a little deeper into the chart here.
DANA: So she's 36 which is the first house year um and this relates to self-expression and so the news breaking tweet occurred within minutes of the great conjunction again. And so the great conjunction uh is occurring on the side of her Moon in Aquarius and so she's being like forced to mature like pushed mature I guess I should say this force is just violent. Um and so
this like is asking her to like, you know, examine your emotions and how you relate to people and stuff. And the conjunction was also exactly square her natal Pluto and Scorpio. Um, and so Pluto is the planet of control and unpredictability and I've said it before, I'll say it again. Like Pluto transits are basically like eclipses and let's start with the song stairway to heaven if you want to understand, just listen to that song and I don't know cry.
Sarah: Oh my God. Love Pluto. Should have known that bad bitch played a role in all of this.
But Hillary a definitely has a lot going on in her chart relating to herself expression and you know she has that Pluto and Scorpio transit that's really going to show that you know transformation is going to happen in her secret, she's gonna probably lose control. There's gonna be something unpredictable about the stuff that she keeps buried below the surface. So honestly seems to be true. Um, and as of right now she went on instagram to acknowledge the rumors and said she was born in Boston, which is literally not something that was ever said before, but she said it very like matter of fact right?
ELYSE: And one of our favorite gospel accounts, we stan Deuxmoi did say that she may have been born in my Majorca while her parents were on vacation, but like again that's just not the same thing is being Spanish like you know you can't just like be born somewhere and then just like claim your that heritage, like it's not the way things work and then it's kind of getting weird right now because on Instagram she's saying she's white but she's like a mix of a bunch of things which is kind of the word she used. Um but the whole thing is it's like different than what she led people to believe.
Sarah: Like some people point out that she never specifically herself said she was Spanish but she sure allowed a lot of people to say that she was Spanish and she didn't correct them. Like even her husband Alec Baldwin referred to her Spanish, that's how newspapers reported her heritage, you know, she went on to say that she spent time in between both Spain and Massachusetts. Um but then also when the whole name thing got brought up like what's the deal with like Hillary Averse. Hillary and she was like I used Hillary a depending on what language I was speaking in. So she's kind of making it seem that everyone's misreporting her, which I think is kind of bullshit.
ELYSE: I mean it's entirely possible that her parents who are academics like wanted her to grow up being bilingual and you know that's definitely a thing in a lot of households but there's a difference between like appreciating a culture and knowing a lot about it and like fully claiming it as yours and also like if a reporter is mis reporting your identity and your heritage, like correct them, send a note, they fix those things.
SARAH: Yeah. Like it's happened way too many times for it to be like, like, you know, like she's not like some obscure person, like she was in like Hola magazine and like stuff like that and they like talk to her about being a Spanish woman, like it's absurd. But all of this to me is bizarre. I don't understand it, but I do love it because this is the type of like low brow celebrity news I've been waiting for all year. So thank you. Hilaria. Hillary. Whatever you want to be called, I appreciate you and whatever we needed this.
ELYSE: This is what the world has needed. But Dana, is there anything else we can expect in the hilarious saga?
DANA: Yeah. So she's currently in the midpoint of her Mars cycle and mars is the planet of survival skills. So Mars cycles, you know, sharpen your survival skills and being at the opposition point. It's kind of like, you know, maybe the most challenging part, it's the part where a relationship comes into it. The part where maybe everyone finds out that you're, you know, faking everything and so this will complete in October and so it's possible, we'll hear more about that for better or worse then um I will for sure be looking out the same way.
ELYSE: We'll definitely have to see how this plays out in the meantime, make sure to catch our great conjunction bonus episode if you haven't already.
SARAH: Yeah, it's been like fucking crushing it, so thank you so much for listening. In the meantime, if you need to fix before season two debut, you can always revisit a few of our top episodes, such as the Salem Witch Trials for Britney and JonBenet.
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